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Rose Shave vs. Shave FF: Same look, completely different ride feel

Rose Shave vs. Shave FF: Same look, completely different ride feel

15.06.26 14:45 29Text: Markus Pinter (translated by AI)Photos: Erwin HaidenThe new Rose Shave and the Shave FF may share the same design language, but on the road they speak two completely different dialects. Which concept is the better choice for which type of rider is determined by our detailed comparative review.15.06.26 14:45 81

Rose Shave vs. Shave FF: Same look, completely different ride feel

15.06.26 14:45 81 Markus Pinter (translated by AI) Erwin Haiden
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The new Rose Shave and the Shave FF may share the same design language, but on the road they speak two completely different dialects. Which concept is the better choice for which type of rider is determined by our detailed comparative review.15.06.26 14:45 81

Sometimes a look at the geometry table is enough to get a feel for the character of a road bike. But even when the numbers on paper point in a clear direction, only the rideout and a direct comparison reveal how big the differences actually are — just as was the case with the new Rose Shave and Shave FF.

At first glance these are two modern carbon road bikes with integrated cockpits, aerodynamically shaped frames, high-quality carbon wheels and — deliberately chosen this way for our comparison — identical Shimano Ultegra Di2 equipment standing side by side. But a closer look quickly shows: Rose uses a common design language for two very different characters.

As an editor at 1000PS I spend a large part of my daily work testing motorized two-wheelers. The bicycle is more of a sporting counterbalance for me. Not a device for races or championships, but a training partner, for weekend rides, after-work spins and occasional hill sprints to blow off steam. Precisely for that reason I’m less concerned with which bike is “better” on paper than with which of the two new Rose models delivers the more exciting mix of riding pleasure, ergonomics, efficiency and emotion in practice.

 30 millimeter difference in stack, different wheel-and-tire combinations and a 780-gram weight difference. 

in a nutshell
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  • Rose Shave vs. Shave FF: Same look, completely different ride feelRose Shave vs. Shave FF: Same look, completely different ride feel
  • Rose Shave vs. Shave FF: Same look, completely different ride feelRose Shave vs. Shave FF: Same look, completely different ride feel
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  • Rose Shave vs. Shave FF: Same look, completely different ride feel
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  • Rose Shave vs. Shave FF: Same look, completely different ride feelRose Shave vs. Shave FF: Same look, completely different ride feel

 A common design language, two very different characters. 

Rose Shave vs. Rose Shave FF

Speaking of emotion: This is precisely where the comparison between the Shave and the Shave FF gets interesting, because FF stands for Fast Forward and that clearly promises the greater share of performance. The Shave, by contrast, comes across like an attempt to combine modern aero looks and a sporty agenda with a significantly more accessible riding position, which I personally find extremely appealing. Because, to be honest, I regularly catch myself ogling the slim, aggressive aero‑frame racing machines — they pull me in emotionally and seem incredibly desirable. At the same time I’m aware that in practice I’m looking for a bike that still brings joy after several hours in the saddle. That’s exactly why the idea behind the Shave appealed to me from the start: it combines the look and presence of a modern performance road bike with a geometry that an ambitious pleasure rider won’t curse on every longer outing.

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  • Rose Shave Super Sonic Grey, size L, without pedalsRose Shave Super Sonic Grey, size L, without pedals
    Rose Shave Super Sonic Grey, size L, without pedals
    Rose Shave Super Sonic Grey, size L, without pedals
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    Rose Shave Cockpit
    Rose Shave Cockpit
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    Rose Shave FF, Shiny Silver, Size L without pedals
    Rose Shave FF, Shiny Silver, Size L without pedals
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    Rose Shave FF Cockpit
    Rose Shave FF Cockpit

Rose Shave Design: Sporty without showmanship

Many classic endurance road bikes look functional but not very exciting. On the other hand, there are modern aero bikes with bulky tube profiles, aggressive shapes and sometimes exaggerated design features. With the new Shave family, Rose takes a refreshingly different approach. The bikes appear dynamic without losing those all-round qualities that make the difference in practice for the average rider.

The frame is clearly identifiable and was developed aerodynamically with attention to detail - yet its shaping is, fortunately, kept in such a way that it remains unobtrusive. The lines are modern, the proportions balanced, and the integrated carbon cockpit, together with a slim D-shaped seatpost, gives a very tidy overall impression. At the same time, Rose pleasantly refrains from oversized logos, garish color combinations or flashy brand staging. I personally prefer to leave the latter to race teams and hipster cyclists anyway. The entire new Shave family looks fast without having to be loud.

 The entire new Shave family looks fast without having to be loud. 

no bling-bling
  • Rose Shave Super Sonic Grey, Size LRose Shave Super Sonic Grey, Size L
    Rose Shave Super Sonic Grey, Size L
    Rose Shave Super Sonic Grey, Size L
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    Rose Shave FF, Shiny Silver, Size L
    Rose Shave FF, Shiny Silver, Size L
  • Rose Shave vs. Shave FF: Same look, completely different ride feel

One highlight is the aforementioned high-quality handlebar-stem unit. Of particular interest is the design of the top bar. The bar tape has been applied relatively sparingly, leaving larger areas of the aerodynamically optimized carbon part visible. The subtle dimpled texture on the grip areas nevertheless provides sufficient grip and offers more hold than bare carbon-fiber surfaces. Depending on the model, Rose applies different accents: In our review setup, the cockpit of the Shave, with a handlebar width of 410 millimeters and a stem length of 110 millimeters, was somewhat more comfort-oriented, while the Shave FF, with a handlebar width of 390 millimeters and a stem length of 120 millimeters, underscores its sporty orientation. Rose fits this integrated cockpit not only to the top models of the lineup but consistently across the entire Shave family. That means even the entry-level models, starting at around €3,600, benefit from a feature many manufacturers reserve for their top models. Praiseworthy!

Tech Specs Rose Shave

Frame Rose Shave, 12x142 TA, Pressfit BB86, Super Sonic Grey, Size L
Fork Rose Shave, 12x100 TA, Super Sonic Grey
Wheels Newmen Advanced A.50, 28"
Tires Continental Grand Prix, Black/Transparent, 700x32C
Crank Shimano Ultegra FC-R8100, 165 mm, with 4iiii power meter
Cassette Shimano Ultegra CS-R8101, 12-speed, 11-34 teeth
Front derailleur Shimano Ultegra Di2 FD-R8150, 12-speed
Rear derailleur Shimano Ultegra Di2 RD-R8150, 12-speed
Chain Shimano CN-M7100 SLX, 12-speed, 118 links
Brakes Shimano Ultegra Di2 ST-R8170 / BR-R8170, hydraulic disc brakes
Handlebar/Cockpit Rose Shave cockpit, 37 cm width / 90 mm stem
Bar tape Rose Gel-Comfort, Black
Saddle Selle Italia Novus Boost EVO Superflow, Manganese, Black
Seatpost Rose Carbon, 320 mm, 14 mm offset
Weight 8.09 kg (BB measurement Size Large without pedals)
Price € 5,050,-

Aerodynamic development in the wind tunnel: Not only the Shave FF benefits

With the Shave FF, Rose actually went into the wind tunnel and gained important insights into the aerodynamics of the new platform. The Shave base model also benefits from these developments. Tube profiles, integration and overall lines clearly show that Rose understands the entire range as a modern performance concept. The difference lies less in the language of form than in the orientation: the FF and FFX models follow a consistently sporty approach, while the Shave combines the same aerodynamic genes with a significantly more accessible geometry.

  • Rose Shave vs. Shave FF: Same look, completely different ride feel

Wheels and tires: another difference in character

While the two bikes look similar at first glance, the wheelsets and tyres make it very clear in detail which target audience Rose wants to address with the two models. The Shave is fitted with Newmen Advanced A.50 carbon wheels. With a 50 millimetre rim height, an internal width of 23 millimetres and a weight of 1,470 grams, it is a high-quality wheelset that represents a successful compromise between aerodynamics, weight and everyday usability. The rim width is an excellent match for modern 30- to 35-millimetre tyres and thus suits the versatile character of the Shave.

Shave FF / FF(X) Geometry

Feature Shave (L) Shave FF (L) Difference
Reach (Size L) 398 mm 412 mm +14 mm
Stack (Size L) 622 mm 591 mm -31 mm
Stack-to-Reach 1.56 1.43 -0.13
Head tube length 196 mm 180 mm -16 mm
Head tube angle 73.25° 73.50° +0.25°
Seat tube angle 73.50° 73.75° +0.25°
Top tube (horizontal) 582 mm 584 mm +2 mm
Wheelbase 1020 mm 1015 mm -5 mm
Chainstays 412 mm 410 mm -2 mm
Bottom bracket offset 73 mm 72 mm -1 mm
Fork offset 45 mm 44 mm -1 mm
Max. tire width 36 mm 35 mm -1 mm
Stem 110 mm 120 mm +10 mm
Maximum total weight 120 kg 110 kg -10 kg

In summary: Even in size L the Shave FF is noticeably sportier. Reach increases by +14 mm, while stack decreases by -31 mm. Together with the 16 mm shorter head tube this results in a noticeably more stretched-out and lower riding position. The slightly steeper seat and head tube angles as well as the longer stem further emphasize the clear race character.

The Shave FF goes one step further. Here, Rose fits its in-house, newly developed RC55 carbon wheels. At 55 millimeters deep, with aerodynamic blade spokes and a weight of around 1,360 grams, they definitely rank among the lighter models. The differences continue with the tires. The FF rolls stock on fine 28 mm Schwalbe Pro One Aero tires combined with lightweight Tubolito TPU inner tubes. A glance at this equipment already makes it clear that Rose has tuned every detail here for dynamism and efficiency. By the way: as an aero claim, Rose states in the wind tunnel a saving of 10 watts at 45 km/h compared with the predecessor Xlite.

  • Rose Shave vs. Shave FF: Same look, completely different ride feel

The Shave, by contrast, runs Continental Grand Prix tires in a 32 millimetre width with classic butyl tubes. The Contis are by no means bad tires; they offer everyday practicality, decent grip and a robust construction. In direct comparison, however, they come across more like solid, no‑frills fare. They do their job reliably, but sacrifice the last few percent in rolling efficiency, dynamism and performance.

The platform’s modern orientation is also evident in terms of tyre clearance. With approvals up to 36 millimetres on the Shave and 35 millimetres on the FF, even riders who like to push the limits for comfort and traction have enough room.

Tech Specs Rose Shave FF

Frame Rose Shave FF, shiny silver L
Fork Rose Shave FF, shiny silver
Wheels Rose RC55 CX-Ray
Front tire Schwalbe Pro One Aero Front Evo, Super Race, RaceGuard black 700x28C
Rear tire Schwalbe Pro One Rear Evo, Super Race, RaceGuard, black 700x28C
Crankset Shimano Ultegra 4iiii, FC-R8100, 175mm
Cassette Shimano Ultegra CS-8101 11-34T, 12-speed
Front derailleur Shimano Ultegra Di2, FD-R8150, 12-speed,
Rear derailleur Shimano RD-8150 12-speed,
Chain Shimano Deore XT, CN-M8100 118 links.
Brakes Shimano Ultegra ST-R8170, BR-R8170,
Handlebar Rose Shave Cockpit, FF/FFX Standard 39cm/120mm
Bar tape Rose Gel-Comfort, black
Saddle Selle Italia SLR Superflow S3 black
Seatpost Rose, 380mm / 0mm offset
Pedals Pedals are not included
Weight 7.23 kg (BB measurement in size Large, without pedals)
Price € 5.650,-
  • Rose Shave vs. Shave FF: Same look, completely different ride feel

Ergonomics: Three centimeters that change everything about the Rose Shave

One of the most decisive differences between our two test bikes in size L is the stack — more than three centimeters separate the models. By the numbers: The Shave has a stack of 622 millimeters in size Large, while the Shave FF is significantly lower at 591 millimeters.

The two bikes also differ noticeably in reach. The Shave measures 398 millimeters, the FF 412 millimeters. The 14-millimeter difference is not dramatic, but combined with the much lower front end it is very clearly noticeable.

In practice this means: the Shave FF automatically forces me as the rider into a much more active position. The shoulders move further forward, the arms extend more, and the upper body is positioned noticeably lower over the bike.

  • Rose Shave vs. Shave FF: Same look, completely different ride feel
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 The riding position changes the character of a road bike more than any individual component ever could. 

every millimeter counts

Riding impression: Dynamism versus calmness

Since both the Shave and the Shave FF could be reviewed in parallel over several weeks, a direct comparison is obvious. The very first ride made one thing clear: The riding position changes the character of a racing bike more strongly than any individual equipment detail ever could.

From the first pedal stroke the Shave FF gives the impression of a genuine performance bike. The lower position puts more pressure on the front wheel, the whole package feels more direct and practically invites you to ride faster.

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A significant contribution to this riding feel also comes from the lighter wheel–tire–tube combination. On the pedal stroke the Shave FF responds more directly, accelerates more spontaneously and overall conveys a livelier impression. Especially in short bursts, when accelerating out of tight corners or on small climbs, the reduced rotating mass becomes noticeable.

Despite all that, the bike never feels uncomfortable or uncompromising — a fact I attribute during the course of the review, among other things, to the supple Schwalbe Pro One tyres combined with the exceptionally generous flex of the lightweight Selle Italia SLR Carbon.

  • Rose Shave vs. Shave FF: Same look, completely different ride feel

The Shave feels more composed in comparison. The acceleration doesn’t seem quite as explosive, but the bike conveys a great degree of composure right from the start. This is due not only to the geometry, which is much more comfort-oriented, but also to the entire setup of wheels and tires. The wider 32-millimeter Continental GP tires create a calmer riding feel and lend the bike a pleasant serenity. Changes of direction are somewhat less hectic, the steering feels more predictable, and overall the Shave conveys more stability and confidence.
Especially on longer stages of 100 km and more I find this setup particularly successful. The bike never feels sluggish, but it forgoes the almost nervous agility that some highly tuned performance road bikes bring. Instead it creates a composed overall impression that suits the character of a modern endurance road bike perfectly.

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  • Rose Shave vs. Shave FF: Same look, completely different ride feel

Oh, as if that were Endurance...

Both the Shave and the Shave FF are classified by the manufacturer under the "Race" category. The Shave may be the more comfortable of the two bikes, but it does not follow a typical endurance formula. Rose consciously forgoes bikepacking mounting points, integrated storage compartments, or other adventure features. Instead, the Shave remains a purebred racing bike, achieving its additional comfort solely through geometry, tire clearance, and ride tuning.

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  • Rose Shave vs. Shave FF: Same look, completely different ride feel

Where does the 780 gram difference between Shave and Shave FF come from?

The weight difference between the two review bikes is, as already mentioned, around 780 grams. What's particularly interesting is that the majority of this difference isn't in the frame but in the rotating components — the very parts that have the biggest impact on acceleration, agility and the bike's ride feel.

Weight differences

Component Shave FF Shave
Tire (each) Schwalbe Pro One Aero 28mm - 277 g* Continental Grand Prix 32mm - 391 g*
Tube (each) Schwalbe Aerothan - 52 g* Butyl tube - 135 g*
Wheelset Rose RC55 - 1.360 g Newmen A.50 - 1.470 g
Complete bike
* Size L without pedals
weighed by us
7,23 kg* 8,01 kg*

Just the tires and tubes save 394 grams on the FF compared with the Shave.
Together with the lighter RC55 wheelset, the weight advantage in the rotating components adds up to around 500 grams.
That also explains why the FF accelerates more responsively and feels livelier overall in comparison.
A substantial part of the weight difference sits exactly where it is most noticeable in riding dynamics.

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Initial conclusion from the Shave vs. Shave FF comparison

After the first few weeks one conclusion is particularly hard to ignore: the Shave strikes an almost ideal compromise for my personal use. It looks sportier than many classic Gran Fondo bikes, offers high-quality equipment and convinces with a geometry that remains comfortable even after several hours in the saddle. At the same time it benefits from the modern aero development of the Shave platform and appears, visually and technically, significantly more ambitious than one would expect from a classic comfort racer.

The Shave FF, on the other hand, impresses with dynamism, low weight and immediate acceleration. Those seeking maximum performance and an active riding position will find an exceptionally exciting overall package here. Added to that is an aero-derived look straight out of the wind tunnel that credibly conveys the sporting intent even when stationary. The shorter head tube, the more compact front end together with the somewhat more delicate fork construction give the FF a particularly elegant and stretched appearance. While the Shave visually walks the successful middle ground between a race and an endurance bike, the FF feels like the perfected interpretation of the same design idea. And the riding characteristics deliver on what the lines promise: the bike accelerates with authority, feels extremely lively and, from the first pedal stroke, conveys the impression that it wants to be ridden as fast as possible.

  • Rose Shave vs. Shave FF: Same look, completely different ride feel
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  • Rose Shave vs. Shave FF: Same look, completely different ride feelRose Shave vs. Shave FF: Same look, completely different ride feel

Outlook: How much FF does the Shave have?

At the end of the first phase of the review I'm left with a question: How much extra performance can you get out of the Shave by bringing some equipment details closer to the level of the sportier FF?

That's exactly what we want to find out in the rest of our long-term review. The stock butyl inner tubes and Continental Grand Prix tires give way to fine Schwalbe Pro One tires combined with lightweight Schwalbe Aerothan inner tubes. Additionally, shortly before finishing this first impression the comparatively heavy Selle Italia Novus Boost Evo Superflow saddle was swapped for a significantly lighter and, moreover, more comfortable SQlab 612 R Carbon. That not only reduces the overall weight but, above all, the rotating mass — precisely those components that have the greatest influence on acceleration and liveliness in a direct comparison with the Shave FF.

Furthermore, we'll take a close look at the ergonomics. Straight from the factory Rose ships the Shave with three centimeters of spacers (the FF has only two) under the handlebar-stem assembly. A reduction of one to two centimeters should bring me closer to an optimal riding position and could give the bike a bit more directness without compromising its comfortable long-distance performance. The next part of our long-term review will therefore show whether the Shave thus makes a noticeable step toward the FF without losing its composed and comfortable core character.

  • Rose Shave vs. Shave FF: Same look, completely different ride feel