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Scott Foil Ultimate RC 2023 in long-term review

Scott Foil Ultimate RC 2023 in long-term review

02.01.23 08:33 899Text: Hannes Lederer (translated by AI)Photos: Erwin HaidenFirst a test of patience, then a celebration. Since October our highest-wattage tester has been riding Scott's new aero road bike in the top-spec version. And after the review was published he really hopes for only one thing: that Scott might forget to collect its super-fast, super-luxe and delightfully comfortable review bike for another year or two ...02.01.23 08:33 1.321

Scott Foil Ultimate RC 2023 in long-term review

02.01.23 08:33 1.321 Hannes Lederer (translated by AI) Erwin Haiden
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First a test of patience, then a celebration. Since October our highest-wattage tester has been riding Scott's new aero road bike in the top-spec version. And after the review was published he really hopes for only one thing: that Scott might forget to collect its super-fast, super-luxe and delightfully comfortable review bike for another year or two ...02.01.23 08:33 1.321

It ended up taking longer than expected. I was actually supposed to get the new Scott Foil RC for a long-term review already in the summer. But what lasts long, as they say, turns out well in the end. Impatience is one of my virtues; it wasn't easy, but at the beginning of October the waiting finally came to an end.
To my great surprise and delight, the Ultimate was indeed delivered. No daintiness, but going all out! Just my taste.

As some may already have noticed from the first photo, the mood at the photoshoot was excellent. But it shouldn't give the impression that we were only fooling around. Nota bene: such a long-term review is a serious matter and is always carried out with full seriousness and objectivity. Neither people nor equipment are spared.
But despite #noshortcuts, let the thinking cells and typing fingers be granted a small shortcut at this point: anyone who wants to know every tiny technical detail about Scott's new aero weapon, I hereby recommend my report from the presentation in beautiful Italy.
For everyone else, here is a not quite so detailed summary of what I consider the most important innovations, specifically related to the Foil RC Ultimate.

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 21% faster, 9% lighter, 10% more comfortable 

To make a long story short
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Aerodynamics

As you would expect from a genuine Scott Foil, an enormous effort was made to optimize the bike aerodynamically according to the currently valid UCI regulations. The aim was not to develop the fastest frameset for the wind tunnel, but to design the fastest possible complete system taking into account the three elements: bike - components - rider.

The basis for this was the UCI rules revised in 2021 and the second generation of the Foil. In close collaboration with Simon Smart of Drag2Zero, the leading F01 Airfoil technology was pushed to the limits of the UCI regulations. Every tube on the bike was optimized to produce as little air resistance as possible.

Geometry

XXS (47) XS (49) S (52) M (54) L (56) XL (58) XXL (61)
Top tube (mm) 520 530 540 550 565 580 600
Head angle (°) 70,5° 71° 72° 72,5° 73° 73,3° 73,3°
Seat tube angle (°) 74,5° 74,5° 74° 73,6° 73,3° 73° 72,5°
Chainstay (mm) 412 412 412 412 412 412 412
Bottom bracket drop (mm) 70 70 70 70 70 70 70
Head tube (mm) 103 108 121 141 161 181 199
Standover height (mm) 746 760 779 801 820 838 853
Seat tube (mm) 452 482 502 523 542 560 572
Wheelbase (mm) 988 994 991 993 1000 1009 1023
Stack (mm) 505 511 527 548 568 589 606
Reach (mm) 380 388 389 389 395 400 409

Whether it's a breakaway at the Tour de France or a lone rider on the after‑work spin: absolutely everyone benefits from the improved aerodynamics. Over a distance of 40 km at a speed of 40 km/h, the rider & bike save a whopping 1:18 minutes compared with the predecessor.

Specifically, that means an aerodynamic drag of 206 watts at 45 km/h (Tour, issue 09/22 - Rad plus Dummyhaxen). And thus a full 10 W less than its predecessor. That places it among the top 10 fastest road bikes ever tested, at least according to Tour magazine.

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Creston IC SL Aero Cockpit

The new cockpit accounts for a large part of the excellent aerodynamics.
The handlebar is practically the component that cuts the air first. This is virtually where the most can be gained.
With the further development of the well-known Creston IC SL stem-handlebar combo, the aerodynamics at this spot were improved by 6 W. So the bar not only looks fast, it actually is. The texture on the bar improves grip, even with sweaty hands. However, you shouldn't rest your forearms on it: slippery when wet! Besides, you'd only be needlessly picking a fight with the UCI, and you really don't want to mess with them.

All cables are, of course, routed internally and well protected from the wind. That applies to both electronic and mechanical shifting systems.
Drop and reach of the bar were kept unchanged from the predecessor at 75 mm/125 mm. The handlebar width was adjusted across all models of the range and made 2 cm narrower at the hoods. The flare wasn't specified, but our own measurements showed the bar in the drops is exactly 2 cm wider.
Aerodynamically fitting, there is a brand-new integrated computer mount available in two lengths.

Tech Specs

Frame Foil RC Disc HMX SL, Road Race Geo, replaceable dropout, internal cable routing Fork Foil Disc HMX SL, 1” exz. head tube
Sizes 47, 49, 52, 54, 56, 58, 61 cm Crankset Sram Red Power Meter, 48/35 T.
Headset Acros AIF-1138 Bottom bracket Sram DUB PF Road 86.5
Stem/Handlebar Syncros Creston iC SL Aero Cassette Sram Red XG1290, 10-33 T.
Shifters Sram Red eTap AXS HRD 2x12 Chain Sram Red 12-speed
Rear derailleur Sram Red eTap AXS 12-speed Brakes Sram Red eTap Disc, Sram CL XR Rotor, 160 mm front/rear
Seatpost Syncros Duncan SL Aero CFT Front derailleur Sram Red eTap AXS 2x12
Saddle Syncros Belcarra V-Concept 1.0 Front tire Schwalbe Pro One Microskin, TL-Easy, 700x25C
Wheels Zipp 454 NSW Rear tire Schwalbe Pro One Microskin, TL-Easy, 700x28C
Weight 7.3 kg Price € 13,999,- RRP

Duncan SL Aero Seatpost

Seat tube and seatpost are now also noticeably more massive than on the predecessor. What looks aerodynamic is usually uncomfortable and means chiropractors won't run out of work anytime soon. Not so with the new Duncan SL Aero CFT. The abbreviation at the end of this tongue-twister stands for comfort.

For me the new Duncan SL Aero CFT seatpost is one of the absolute highlights of the bike.
What at first glance looks like a single piece, on closer inspection turns out to be two or even three parts. The actual seatpost is only the front part. This is just 19 mm wide. That allows good flex and is, so to speak, the puzzle piece for the comfort of the new Foil.
The second part, significantly wider and also made of carbon, is simply added to the rear. A small peg is provided for correct positioning.
The pivot point of this system is located exactly 109 mm below the saddle clamp — according to Scott the sweet spot for excellent comfort without flexing too much.

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But what do you do with the hole between the pivot and the seatpost clamp? They came up with the brilliant idea of fitting a taillight. Perfectly adapted to the aerodynamic shape of the seatpost, the light is slipped into the gap and clicks into place.
Unfortunately the light was not included with my review bike, because due to the differing StVO regulations of the destination countries a legally compliant factory fit is not possible. At the presentation I was one of the few lucky ones who were already allowed to test the light. Conclusion: It works, flatters the eye and increases visibility in road traffic: Rating: 1+
It has an output of 20 lumens and, in the non-StVO-compliant version, offers three lighting modes. Runtime is eight to 22 hours depending on the mode. It charges via USB-C and weighs just under 40 g. Cost for the additional purchase: one euro per gram, therefore €40,-.

A little practical tip: During the review period the seatpost slipped slightly into the frame several times. A bit of research revealed: the maximum tightening torque is 10 Nm. I was far too cautious with my bare hands. Therefore I strongly recommend using a torque wrench. 10 Nm is considerably more than I would ever tighten by feel, so you shouldn't be timid. Since then nothing has slipped anymore.

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Carbon fiber layup

The frameset of the new Foil RC Ultimate, in which Scott's highest-quality HMX SL carbon fiber is used, weighs 915 g in size 54/M. The fork, also made from HMX SL, comes in at 445 g. Everything painted, including small parts and the shortened steerer.
The stiffness is 60 N/mm at the bottom bracket and 92 N/mm at the head tube on all models - the same values as on the Scott Addict RC, which, after consultation with the pros from Team DSM, has optimal stiffness values.

I advise people with weak nerves and high blood pressure to please skip the following paragraph ...

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€13,999 — not a euro less — is being charged for the new Scott Foil RC Ultimate.
I'll leave that number without comment and secretly hope that Scott has already forgotten about my review bike. I really wouldn't mind a long-term review of one or two years.

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Specifications of the Ultimate

Equipped with SRAM's top groupset, there are virtually no wishes left. SRAM Red shifts completely wirelessly and very precisely. The brakes bite firmly and are well controlled. The gearing is well suited for both flat and hilly terrain. Nevertheless, I have a few minor criticisms.
As an owner of the current Shimano top groupsets Ultegra/Dura‑Ace, I was initially surprised by the relatively slow shifting of SRAM Red. Not that you wouldn't get used to it, but in a direct, back-to-back comparison it's a difference like night and day.
Another reason why I would always prefer Shimano to SRAM are the shift buttons on top of the STI levers. Especially in the changeable seasons and in winter the bike computer's display stays nice and clean, whereas with SRAM groups it always gets gunked up and filthy when I run my hands across the display.
What I do like better about SRAM, however, is shifting with thick gloves on. Where there's only one button you can only hit that one button. A mis-shift, as can sometimes happen with Shimano, is therefore ruled out.

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I went all-in with the Zipp 454 NSW. To put it bluntly: breathtaking looks, very low weight and fantastic ride characteristics. I have nothing to criticize here. If money weren't an issue, I'd probably have gone for the same wheelset.
The Zipp wheels showcase their strengths both in northwesterly winds on the Pannonian Plain and on the steep ramps of the foothills of the eastern Alps. If anyone now thinks, "what does this flatlander from the east know about steep climbs," I recommend a short detour to the Steyersberger Schwaig. To name just one example ...

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How it rides

I was particularly curious about the handling of the new Foil. I had already been able to test it for a few hundred kilometres on Italian roads, but at home, where you've ridden every road several thousand times, know every surface inside out and are personally familiar with every pothole, it's something completely different.

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The Zipp 454 run 25mm Schwalbe tires in the front and 28mm at the rear. By contrast, on my own "old" Scott Foil I'm running 28mm tires both front and rear. Nevertheless, I don't really notice any difference in terms of comfort. Neither at the front nor at the rear.
That lines up with the promise of a 10-percent improvement in comfort. Or rather, despite the massive seat tube, the seatpost's construction does its job as promised. I like.

By the way, to avoid any creaking Scott recommends disassembling the seatpost roughly every 1,000 km, cleaning it, re-greasing it, and reinstalling it.
Of course I did not follow that recommendation during my review. Even after more than 2,000 km on sometimes filthy autumn roads, in wind and rain, nothing creaks.

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The handling is razor-sharp, yet forgiving enough for a relaxed after-work ride.
My initial skepticism about the cockpit has completely evaporated. The wing feels good in the hand and fits perfectly into the overall design of the Foil RC. Also: if it likes to go fast, I'm always up for it.
When you put the power down, the aero racer also shows no weaknesses. And if the stiffness is good enough for a powerhouse like Sam Welsford from Team DSM (whom I had the chance to meet at the presentation), next to whose thighs mine look like spaghetti, then it's good enough for me too.

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Conclusion

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Model year: 2023
Review duration: over 2,000 km, still counting
Price: € 13,999 RRP
+ incredibly fast
+ comfortable
+ low weight for an aero road bike
+ handling
+ I love the looks
o Availability?
o If only it weren't for the price...
BB verdict: fast, faster, Foil — and it's comfortable too

The new Scott Foil RC Ultimate goes all-in and offers a lot of bike for a lot of money.
Premium parts paired with a premium look. Every ride puts a little smile on your face.

Would I buy the new Scott Foil? A clear yes.
However, I'd opt for the model with Dura‑Ace or Ultegra. Even if money were no object, the cheaper Ultegra version in particular offers plenty of tuning potential and a bit of leeway for customizing the components.

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