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Cyclocross Tubeless Finale: Challenge H-TLR Tire Review with MilKit

Cyclocross Tubeless Finale: Challenge H-TLR Tire Review with MilKit

26.01.23 08:15 195Text: Martin Rauscher (translated by AI)Photos: Erwin Haiden, derschulfotograf.at (Herwig Füreder), teubenbacher.gotphoto.at (Ernst Teubenbacher)Traditionally, the Austrian cyclocross season drew to a close with the national championship — and with it our Challenge H-TLR tire review came to an end. Time for the conclusion!26.01.23 08:15 200

Cyclocross Tubeless Finale: Challenge H-TLR Tire Review with MilKit

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Traditionally, the Austrian cyclocross season drew to a close with the national championship — and with it our Challenge H-TLR tire review came to an end. Time for the conclusion!26.01.23 08:15 200

Let's remember: (Somewhat) punctually with the start of the local cyclocross season, our long-term review of three tubeless-ready models that Challenge Tires offers for cyclocross also began. Chicane, Limus and Baby Limus each appeared in the H-TLR version to convince us of the merits of a tubeless setup in CX racing.
All technical details about the three review candidates, details on mounting including the Milkit Tubeless Conversion Kit as well as basic questions and beliefs around the topic of CX tires can be found in the Kick-off to the long-term review.

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In the following lines I will try to draw a fair conclusion and to summarize the interim reports that have already appeared — in the form of comments under the above-mentioned article.
However, I must first confess one mistake: Of course the DT Swiss wheelset used was the ER1600 with a 20 mm internal width and not, as originally stated in Part 1, the PR1600 with an 18 mm internal width.

The various Challenge models were put through a rigorous but fair review over several training sessions and five races of the Austrian Cyclocross Cup. Unfortunately, they did not really impress. But let's take it in order ...

 Wels/Wimpassing - Böheimkirchen - Bad Ischl - Gunskirchen - Langenzersdorf 

Stages of a long-term review, together with the training rides in the Vienna Woods
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Top: Profile

I would like to point out positively that each of the three reviewed tread patterns absolutely makes sense and choosing the one that fits the surface is easy. After all, there are some manufacturers who have so many different tires in their lineup that it becomes very difficult to pick the right one.
With the Challenge tread patterns, however, I never felt during races that I had chosen the wrong pattern.

Since most of the events I entered turned out very muddy, the Limus was always a safe choice here.
The tread has decent self-cleaning, and countless sharp edges provide massive traction paired with good braking efficiency. I also liked the tread on difficult slanted sections.

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Flop: Air loss

But this already brings us to the crux of the matter: A cyclocross (CX) tire depends on the right air pressure. Only when it's set perfectly can the tire perform at its best.
Unfortunately, however, we experienced sometimes quite substantial air loss with all three models, which we unfortunately couldn't definitively get to the bottom of. Sometimes the tires held their pressure almost loss-free, then there were races where the initially too-high starting pressure of 2.0 bar had already fallen to 1.1 bar after an hour.
So I started not just one race with little grip, and from halfway on had to fight to make sure the tire wouldn't be pulled off the rim ...

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A look into the water bath showed: the junction between rim and tire is simply not airtight. And even at 2.0 bar, burping (that is, the escape of air at the rim/tire junction, which in practice usually happens in hard-driven corners or when riding at an angle) could already be simulated with firm thumb pressure.

The trouble announced itself already when inflating the tires. Almost every tire I’ve ridden in my life so far (and there have been many) popped into position with a loud bang when inflated. Not so the Challenge tires.
Also, these tires, when deflated, can be pulled off the rim again with almost no effort – surprising after the exertion during mounting.

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At least: the tires lost air less the longer the tire was ridden.
But precisely because of that the biggest advantage of tubeless tires in cyclocross disappears. Quickly swapping tires before a race or getting through the season with only one set of rims simply doesn't work.

Tech Specs

  Chicane Limus Baby Limus
Size: 700x33-622 700x33-622 700x33-622
Construction: SuperPoly casing, Aramid core, PPS puncture protection, TPI 300 SuperPoly casing, Aramid core, PPS puncture protection, TPI 300 SuperPoly casing, Aramid core, PPS puncture protection, TPI 300
Type: Handmade Tubeless Ready Handmade Tubeless Ready Handmade Tubeless Ready
Recommended pressure: 1.8-2.5 bar 1.8-2.5 bar 1.8-2.5 bar
Intended use: hard-packed trails, sand, ice (wet) mud all conditions, grass, mud
Color: Tan Tan Tan
Weight (BB measurement): 392 g 386 g 386 g
Price: € 77,90 € 77,90 € 77,90
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A word on Milkit

Regarding the Milkit valves we used – you can also find all (assembly-)details in Part 1 of our review – I would like to add: The ability to check the sealant level with residual pressure in the tyre is very practical, since the Challenge tyres lie flat against the rim immediately without air. That way no „pool“ for the sealant is left behind.

However, this feature also has a downside. The membrane in the valve base somewhat restricts the airflow. As a result the tyres are not as easy to inflate and checking and, if necessary, releasing air with an electronic pressure gauge takes significantly longer than with classic valves.

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Conclusion

Challenge H-TLR Chicane, Limus & Baby Limus
Season: 2022/2023
Review duration: 3 months
+ clearly defined tread profiles
+ good grip characteristics of the individual models
- a permanently leak-free tubeless setup is difficult to impossible
- high price
BB verdict: Tubeless cyclocross? Unfortunately not.

Anyone who needs such a tire for tubeless-only rims (e.g. Zipp 303s) but still wants to run a tube, I can recommend the Challenge tires — not least because of the good, clearly defined profiles and the convincing grip in all conditions.
That said, be warned: with such shallow-profile tires, installing a tube can become a nerve-wracking experience.
Unfortunately I cannot recommend them to everyone else; simply because the rim/tire interface is not permanently airtight and, depending on terrain and demands, you'll contend with varying degrees of air loss.

We haven't completely given up hope for a high-performance tubeless tire for cyclocross yet. Let's see what the 23/24 cyclocross season brings. Or we'll keep tube tires alive in their last remaining bastion of the sport — watch out!

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